[Total: 0 Average: 0] Without the backing of American weaponry, munitions and loans, the Allies would have been forced to abandon their goal of the knockout blow. Almost all of the 23 victims of the attack on Friday Russian Federation Soviet Union WebTo give an idea: IIRC, just before Japan's defeat, in one year the United States pumped out as much material as Japan did over the course of the war. But for the sake of a full spectrum analysis, lets assume that Lend Lease was tied to US joining the war, and if US did not join, there would be no Lend Lease. WebBy the time the allies were pushing through Europe, the US had collected many victories in the pacific, the arena of carriers and planes. On: July 7, 2022. It is no exaggeration to say that America won the war abroad and the peace at home at the same time. In addition, there would have been constant shortages of transportation and fuel. And now they are saying that we had plenty of everything on our own.". However it doesnt seem to be critical to the wars result. We all know how the war turned outwith an overwhelming Soviet-Western Allied victory over Nazi Germany ending with the destruction of Germany and the death by starvation of millions of its citizens. Italy and Japan never posed the same kind of threat as the European superpower they fought alongside. They were rapidly obsoleted and were relegated to back line duties (reserve, regional back line defense, training) towards 1943 due to speed of technological advancement on both sides. With Great Britain in the war it meant Germany was dragged into various side campaigns from Greece to North Africa. But it cannot be denied that the Americans sent us materiel without which we could not have formed our reserves or continued the war. "It should be remembered that during World War I, the transportation crisis in Russia in 1916-17 that did a lot to facilitate the February Revolution [which lead to the abdication of the tsar] was caused by a shortage in the production of railway rails, engines, and freight cars because industrial production had been diverted to munitions," Sokolov wrote. Therefore they would still have to keep some forces there even if they could reduce them much more. I already posted a similar thread about US involvement in WWI. But when World War II has considered it is really Germany and Japan against most of the world. World War II in Europe was Germany and Italy, which was joined by Finland, Hungary, Romania, and to some extent Bulgaria. Though Germans would rightfully conclude that at that point a British invasion would not have much impact, therefore reduce their divisions in the West quite a lot. On April 23, 1947, it was forced to make an emergency landing with 36 people on board near the village of Volochanka on the Taimyr Peninsula. WebFor the Allies in World War Two, the defeat of Germany was their priority. He believes that World War One could have been prevented, if Archduke Franz Ferdinand had survived the assassins bullet. "I knew that its place was in a museum," Vyacheslav Filippov, a colonel in the Russian Air Force reserve who has written extensively about the Lend-Lease program's Siberian connection, told RFE/RL at the time. The allies won WW2 and the allies won the cold war. And they would have been perpetually hungry without American canned meat and fats. But the Soviet Union was never alone: Months before the United States formally entered the war, it had already begun providing massive military and economic assistance to its Soviet ally through the Lend-Lease program. Again I asked myself the question would the Allied powers had won without US involvement. The Soviet failure to invest in developing armoured personnel carriers for their infantry, better reconnaissance vehicles and mobile flak guns were serious technical mistakes that proved costly in battle, but Lend-Lease deliveries of US-made halftracks and reconnaissance vehicles helped to partly rectify this deficiency by the last year of the war. Again I asked myself the question would the Allied powers had won without US involvement, and it is harder for me to say than the previous thread. It is our living history. Neither the Allied Powers (France, Britain, Russia, Italy, Japan, and several smaller states) nor the Central Powers (Germany, Austria-Hungary, the Ottoman Empire, and Bulgaria) would have gained everything they wanted from a negotiated settlement. If there had been no lend-lease, then the UK would have lost the war. ", Nikolai Ryzhkov, the last head of the government of the Soviet Union, wrote in 2015 that "it can be confidently stated that [Lend-Lease assistance] did not play a decisive role in the Great Victory.". He rapidly began to simplify construction procedures for the T-34 and within less than a year the number of man-hours required to produce T-34s was cut in half. However, I have serious doubts that the Germans would have been able to win the war had the USA stay neutral. This included such small arms as the MG34, MG42 and the world's first "assault rifle," the StG44. Spam saved the Soviet Union? What role did the United States play in World War I? On September 2, 1939, the day after Germany invaded Poland, Hitler offered to withdraw from all of Poland except for the Polish Corridor, which constituted scarcely more than 4 percent of Polish territory, in order to avoid war with Britain and France. Britain still would have prevailed. Would The Allies Have Won Ww1 Without America? The consideration that the possibility of landings tying German forces before invasion comes to mind. They did not have the important critical resources, minerals needed for war production, hampering their already technologically backward equipment. 2 US taking on Japan and preventing them from attacking anyone else isan important contribution, but especially in the light of #1, it doesnt seem to be critical. There were the puppet states of Slovakia and Slovenia, volunteers from across Europe including neutral Spain, but all this was matched against Great Britain, France, Poland, the Soviet Union, and notably the United States. "During World War II, only the supplies brought in by Lend-Lease prevented the paralysis of rail transport in the Soviet Union.". In the Western popular imagination -- particularly the American one -- World War II is a conflict we won. Im not sure if Germany would have won but they might have ended up with more favorable terms or even just went back to their original borders. In regard to combat balance, we see many disasters in Western Front as well. It had been foreseen in 1916 that if the United States went to war, the Allies military effort against Germany would be upheld by U.S. supplies and by enormous extensions of credit. WebIn 1963, KGB monitoring recorded Soviet Marshal Georgy Zhukov saying: "People say that the allies didn't help us. We gave the British dozens of surplus destroyers. My object was to cheer up Harry and give him my ideas as to how he was to hold the president in line if he couldI have no doubt of the British people doing it. On December 8, 1941, one day after the attack on Pearl Harbor, the United States declared war on Japan. Various French Kings conducted some raids, the Spanish planned to use its Armada, the Dutch managed to at least burn some English warships in the Thames but even Napoleon never dared mount what would have been a futile invasion. By this time US aid was already flowing in, and the victory came afterSecond Battle of El Alamein, after US themselves joined. In conclusion, if Germany won WW1, the German government would have been considerably more powerful and the Austro-Hungarian and Ottoman Empires would have lasted longer. So even though Japan could easily cripple British presence in SE Asia easily with its Navy (they mostly did that already), it is rather difficult to imagine Japan subduing India which would turn into another China for Japan. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Also the liberty ships were built mainly for the US government and weren't in full production until late 42 (after the u-boats had been beaten by bletchly park). Strangely, Hitler did not appear interested in convening such a Four Power Peace Conference. No one talks about this officially, and Stalin never, I think, left any written traces of his opinion, but I can say that he expressed this view several times in conversations with me.". On May 11, 1947, 27 people were rescued, having spent nearly three weeks in the icebound wreck. From the depths of the Cold War to the present day, many Soviet and Russian politicians have ignored or downplayed the impact of American assistance to the Soviets, as well as the impact of the entire U.S.-British war against the Nazis. However, if Germany had limited itself to liberating the Polish occupied German city of Danzig and invading the Polish Corridor, which represented the full extent of his territorial claims on Poland, and which it captured in the first four days of fighting, then Hitler could have requested an armistice from Polish leaders on September 5. On the Soviet side, the Western Front still had 328 tanks left in thirteen tank brigades and the 1st Guards Motorized Rifle Division (1GRMD) by the end of October: thirty-three KV-1, 175 T-34, forty-three BT, fifty T-26 and thirty-two T-60. If Lend-Lease had been denied to Russia, perhaps by an isolationist America, the Red Army would never have become the military steamroller that it eventually became. We would have lost North Africa and the far east. Churchill is particularly a factor in this. Couldn't the 1 million strong 21st army group have advanced that deep? He motivated factory managers by reminding them what happened to people who didnt meet Stalins quotas and pointedly said, I am responsible for the tanks with my head. While Soviet efforts to mobilize labour and industrial resources were prodigious, it should be noted that the rapid expansion of Soviet tank production would have been handicapped without the delivery of Lend-Lease raw materials and machine tools to replace equipment lost in the hasty evacuations. Stalin said that the allies won World War II with British brains, American cash, and Russian blood. the first thing to point out is that those who think the UK would have colapsed and been invaded are just wrong. This, in turn, would have delayed the Soviet invasion of Finland until 1940. Across Northern France, Belgium, the Netherlands, and into Northern Germany, 21st Army Group advanced on a front about 75 miles wide. In addition, the Lend-Lease program propped up the Soviet railway system, which played a fundamental role in moving and supplying troops. I am not one of those Americans who enthusiastically embrace the "chestnuts out of the fire" myth. Eventually, those nations got out of the fight and in the case of Romania joined with the Soviets against the Hungarians. W. Without the need to fight in the Atlantic; to transport large amounts of troops, equipment, and supplies across the entire continent; and the necessity to defend against Allied bombing, Germany could have massively reduced its U-boat, locomotive, and anti-aircraft gun and ammunition production and converted at least part of these capacities into the production of more aircraft and equipment for land warfare. For asking casual questions about History. This might have led to the curious prospect of Nazi Germany, France and Britain fighting on the same side, however briefly, in a war against the Soviet Union. On December 7, 1941, the U.S. naval base Pearl Harbor was the scene of a devastating surprise attack by Japanese forces that would push the U.S. into entering WWII. Robert Coalson is a senior correspondent for RFE/RLwho covers Russia, the Balkans, and Eastern Europe. Therefore, the prospects for an Allied victory after the Fall of France without the US are indeed very grim. As noted, it dragged the Germans into campaigns that were unnecessary including in Greece and North Africa, and then when Benito Mussolini's government was toppled Germany was forced to occupy its former ally. Britain, and probably France as well, would have likely pressured the Poles to accept such a reasonable compromise proposal and informed them they would not support Poland militarily if Poland rejected it just as they told Czech leaders after Munich. WebIt must be baldly stated: Germany would have won World War I had the U.S. Army not intervened in France in 1918.The French and British were barely hanging on in 1918. British Matilda tanks are loaded onto a ship for transportation to the U.S.S.R. as part of the Lend-Lease program. The major effects would have been on the US. Throw in the fact that Germany's victories in Poland, Denmark, Norway, the Netherlands, Belgium, and France didn't really help this tied down vast amounts of men and material that could have been better used on the frontlines in the Soviet Union. The captain, two crew members, and six passengers had left earlier in an ill-fated effort to get help. Having to only fight a one-front war against the Soviet Union might have enabled the Poles to hold out for a few months instead of a few weeks against the Soviet onslaught perhaps resulting in a few hundred thousand more Red Army casualties. Would the US have entered WWII on the Nazi front if Germany got the UK to surrender after the blitzkrieg? When we look at the situation in Western Front, we see Germans not sweating much to stall Allies after Normandy. And the Russian winter. Should we condemn the French Revolution? There was another sad example of not learning from history. In early 1915, Germany introduced a policy of unrestricted submarine warfare in the Atlantic. Germany lost the First World War largely because it couldn't fight a sustained two-front war. Anyways, while I think you might just have a stalemate, especially if the war drags on, in order to win the Allies might have to at least get more US materiel. Roosevelt also contributed to Soviet stabilization. Rather, the consequence of lend-lease was to virtually bankrupt this country and lead to the collapse in our manufacturing base, whilst the Marshall Plan created one of the strongest economies in the world - who got the short straw? It may not display this or other websites correctly. Had Germany been on an actual wartime economy from 1939 things could have been vastly different. The Allies likely would have followed suit by making peace with Nazi Germany, too, thus ending World War II after a mere two weeks of fighting. WebIn the 20032004 Captain America story arc Cap Lives (Captain America Vol. A monument in Fairbanks, Alaska, to the American pilots who flew almost 8,000 U.S. planes to Alaska and to the Soviet pilots who flew them on to Siberia as part of Lend-Lease. Sure but this not what the OP specified so the answer remains yes the Allies could win without direct US involvement or even with the pre Lend-Lease levels of support if it happens early in the war. FranceWhich countries have won the most battles? Overall Soviet armour losses in 1942 were 62 per cent of those tanks built which was less than the German build: loss rate and indicated that the Red Army could absorb huge losses in material. Myth: Japan could have won World War II, if only the Japanese had bombed the oil depots at Pearl Harbor in addition to the ships. Overall, the Western Allies were responsible only for a small fraction of the losses sustained by German infantry and armor between 1941 and 1943 (around 10 percent); however, their contribution in the destruction and occupation of the Luftwaffe was overwhelming. September 1 marked the eightieth anniversary of the outbreak of World War II, which cost the lives of an estimated fifty to sixty million people and was the most terrible war in world history. Such assessments, however, are contradicted by the opinions of Soviet war participants. However, the real significance of Lend-Lease for the Soviet war effort was that it covered the "sensitive points" of Soviet production -- gasoline, explosives, aluminum, nonferrous metals, radio communications, and so on, says historian Boris Sokolov. US started the war with equipment rather sub par for European front (Tanks, Aircraft especially), and when first batches of these supplies arrived in USSR, they were already unusable in the main front except a few items and they were in small numbers. Of course, we are not taking tactical considerations into account. Did the Allies win ww1 because of the US? With Britain gone, Hitler could have transferred more of his Panzer Divisions from France as well as the Afrika Corps. 2 US taking on Japan and preventing them from attacking anyone else. So in World War One, I think fresh American troops helped change the outcome. It is also possibleand perhaps even likelythat without the promise of Allied military support, Poland would have agreed to cede the rest of West Prussia and perhaps even East Upper Silesia, but not Posen, to Nazi Germany in order to avoid war.
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